A Second Coming.


Iraq is the biggest sacrifice any people can offer for the sake of "Truth".

The Iraqi "entreprise" or "experience" is the fig leaf that has unmasked many...
Many Americans, many Westerners, many Arabs, many Iranians...many Christians, many Jews and many Muslims...including the Dalai Lama. (So Buddhists save your breath.)

Iraq is our cross and Iraq is your salvation - of that I am certain. It is an intuitive knowledge. I just know it to be true. The same way I knew that the dream I had several months prior to the 2003 invasion to be a premonitory one.

Only does the dream, I had back then, make sense now. I alluded to that dream in one of my earliest posts and titled it "The Crucified Boy and his Ressurection.".

Six months or so, prior to our "Liberation", I had this powerful oneiric vision.
I remember waking up in the very early hours of the morning, drenched in sweat and crying my eyes out. I relayed that dream to some members of my family - a dream that forebode what was later to unfold in Reality.

I dreamt of a very old wooden cross planted on Iraqi soil. I saw two American GI's lifting a young boy (around 11), lifting him from his upper arms and nailing him on that cross.
In the dream, the sun set very quickly and everything got shrouded in a thick obscurity. The GI's walked away, leaving the boy on the cross.
I remember seeing the earth scorched brown black. I said to myself in the dream :
" Darkness has landed and will cover all of us."

I knew that America was not only going to invade us but will also crucify us one by one. After 13 years of embargo torture, we were to meet our final fate.

Needless to say the dream proved to be true. So we have been and continue to be crucified...


Surely something "good" will come out of all of this? Surely all this suffering cannot go to waste? Yes, something good will come out - Your salvation.

We are going to save you and liberate you. Save you and liberate you from the grips of your own Evil.

The Evil of your indifference, your apathy, your complacency, your blindness, your ignorance, your arrogance, your haughtiness, your greed, your lies, your deceit, your denial, your viciousness, your cruelty, your death wish...

Each one of us is a splinter on that wooden cross and the little boy is "Innocence".
And you have crucified Innocence and this Innocence will save you.

And we will resurrect. Maybe not on the third day, but resurrect we will. That is the grand Design, that is the Plan. I just know.

And you will have millions of resurrected bodies, young and old waiting for you with open arms. And you will come running, blinded by the Force that will transpierce you like beams of Light.

Each tear, each wound, each scar will be like golden drops of rain, like golden flags waving in the firmament. Flags of Victory.

And those of you who pretended to see whilst deliberately closing their eyes will be left out.
Left out in that same Darkness, on scorched desert grounds...Left out in that same Obscurity I saw in the dream.

How can you otherwise explain all that suffering? I tell you - It is nothing but a preparation.

Do not think you can simply turn on your heels and go back doing what you do best: lying, plundering, pillaging, stealing, raping, torturing, killing...It is not possible. Life is not an exercise in Futility.

So yes it is a preparation. For we are the Cross, the Body, the Flesh and the Blood.
And you are nothing but the thorns and the nails...

We will resurrect, I promise you.

So pay heed, for our second coming is in the making. And what a mighty one it will be.

Painting : Iraqi female artist, Betool Fekaiki.

Comments

Anonymous said…
TOT, the agnostico-fascist and zionazi psycopath here again bullshitting and crapping ...
Anonymous said…
TOT & COMPANY INC you dedacted Both The Quick and Dead. Don't + - From your Creed .(3) 7
Anonymous said…
Make no mistake anon, my father has sent me with the sword.
I don't know why the Jew(Trajan)is quoting Scripture.

He's already been damned to eternal annihilation.
Anonymous said…
Layla, your writing is magnificent and the artwork you feature is magnificent. In fact, I think this may be the most beautiful and moving site on the internet.

But where the hell were you and yours when Saddam was at war with Iran? Did you personally stop that war? Where were you when he tortured people, when he gassed kurds, when he invaded Kuwait, when he killed hundreds of thousands of Shiites? Did you and yours personally stop him?

How about right now? Are you personally, you and yours, personally, getting out into the streets of Iraq and stopping the violence?

I ask these questions because you seem to assume that average Americans have some kind of superhuman power to stop the monstrous juggernaut that our country has become. Gee, I wish we did have that superhuman power. I sure do wish I could get my damn Congressmen to stop this occupation. I wish I could get my fellow human beings to see what is going on. But, see, I'm just one human being, just like you, and I only have the ordinary powers of an ordinary human being, just like you.
Saddam didn't gas Kurds or kill/torture hundreds of thousands. Re Kuwait is really belongs to Iraq.
Anonymous said…
Wow, here again another brainless hubristic American bumpkin, this time named fillip ...
Anonymous said…
Titus Cretinus,

All you Neo-Roman crapulent Dives "believe in" is your ABDOMEN - both the upper and the lower parts.

The rest is pure rhetorical exercise.
Angel said…
fillip said

How about right now? Are you personally, you and yours, personally, getting out into the streets of Iraq and stopping the violence?

Sorry, just at the moment I think they are too busy being KILLED, courtesy of the USA.

What about you, fillip? Why don't you, personally, go to Iraq and help stop the carnage your government has wreaked? What are you and yours doing, personally, right at this minute, to help stop the violence?

LADY

Thankyou for the link. I've got through 40 or so pages. It's an interesting read.

Night, all.
Anonymous said…
Angel, so what are YOU personally doing to stop the violence. Because if you aren't stopping it, it's all your fault. Right, Layla?
Anonymous said…
Bravo, philip the ameronazi!
Anonymous said…
"brainless hubristic American bumpkin"

Oh my, name calling.
Re book on Saddam

Thanx :) will have a look

Another is Saddam Hussein the Fighter the Thinker the Man by Dr Amir Iskander (pdf)at al-Moharer.net.
That wasn't name calling Fillip.

If u want that I can bring it.
Anonymous said…
Janice,

You'd do a lot better to simply make a point than to call me names.
Anonymous said…
Fillip, you have the gall to write and ask Layla what she's doing? In case you don't know, Layla - and her people - are just trying to stay ALIVE. As usual, what comes out of Americans is just hot air and nothing of substance. No, nobody thinks Americans are 'superhuman' - very far from it, except that all the killing and destruction is being done in their names, by their representatives (who have gone half way across the world) in Iraq. Now, if someone was committing such heinous crimes in MY name, I'd certainly do something about it, and not lecture the victims. I guess it's easy to do that when you sit on your fat behinds and enjoy the spoils that your representatives bring home to you. Cindy Sheehan, who is trying to do something, had a paltry THREE HUNDRED people standing with her this week - shame on all of you.

Angel, he's incapable of either going to Iraq or stopping the carnage - there's nothing between the ears. They can only function when they are holding a gun.
Fillip

Who are you to tell me anything?

Typical Seppo*


Septic Tank=Yank.(Australian)
Anonymous said…
fillip,
every word you say just shows the world that you're just a brainless hubristic ameronazi ...
Anonymous said…
Little Deer, Angel, Layla: you are all indulging in collective blame.
Anonymous said…
Calling me a Nazi proves my point. It's all collective blame. Collective blame is what the rw in America uses to justify the very policies you all are complaining about, the carnage and violence.

So go right ahead and add to the cycle of collective blame. I can't stop you.
Anonymous said…
Janice,

Who are you to tell me anything?
Anonymous said…
The lot of you seem to cry out for solutions, but your only solution seems to be collective blame.

That's no solution. That's the problem.
Anonymous said…
phillip,
you're a brainless hubristic ameronazi, every normal-brained human being can see that. That you can't see that is of course understandable - seeing your background - ...
Fillip

Right thats it Motherfucker >:(


U self righteous twunt.
Anonymous said…
Right. Ok. That's a lot of namecalling there, ole anon. But if it's what you've got, it's what you've got.
Anonymous said…
I think Iraqi Resistance in Iraq is dealing with that superbly - individually instead of collectively.

I don't think anyone is crying out for 'solutions' - it's way past time for that. What everyone is screaming to the Heavens for is JUSTICE and ACCOUNTABILITY for crimes against humanity, GENOCIDE.
Anonymous said…
Actually, I think the Iraqi Resistance is creating a lot of mayhem and carnage. I now see where you and I presume Layla and the rest of you are coming from. You are, it seems, advocates and admirers of evil, mayhem and violence.
Anonymous said…
Your notion of justice seems to be turning Iraq into a bloodbath. That's your notion of a solution.

I call that satanic.
Anonymous said…
Oh my, more names from Janice.
Anonymous said…
'evil, mayhem and violence' - does that not refer, oh so appropriately, to you/your people??????. That's what you exported to Iraq, and what resides among you already.
Anonymous said…
fillip,
and you claim not to a brainless hubristic ameronazi??? Every word that comes out of your rotten stenchy nazi mouth is a proof of it!!!
Anonymous said…
You decry violence as you call for blood. I guess you don't even see the irony or contradiction in that?
Anonymous said…
See, anon, buddy, I agree that what the US brought to Iraq was carnage and mayhem. I think Bush ought to be brought to justice for what he's done. I think the US Congress needs to impeach him and then he needs to be tried for starting the war in Iraq.

But more carnage and mayhem isn't a solution and it isn't justice, nor is collective blame a solution or justice.
Anonymous said…
Oh, there's just one solution - get the f*** out of the land which does not belong to you - but then, you lot are professional at stealing other people's lands, aren't you? Except that, this time, you've LOST, and will NEVER be able to take what does not belong to you.
Anonymous said…
"you/your people" - collective blame.

Collective blame is precisely the basis of the right wing US warmongering policy that led to the (illegal) invasion of Iraq in the first place.
Fillip


You Zionlouse how dare you even use the words Iraqi Resistance and mayhem and carnage in the same sentence.

The Resistance like Saddam Hussein(Like the Sun cos he shone on Everyone except Zionlice and their Lackeys)has bravery and integrity.

Something a Lackey of the Zionswine would never comprehend.
Anonymous said…
"Little Deer said...
Oh, there's just one solution - get the f*** out of the land which does not belong to you - but then, you lot are professional at stealing other people's lands, aren't you? Except that, this time, you've LOST, and will NEVER be able to take what does not belong to you"

I agree with that getting out is the solution. But "you lot"? That's just collective blame.
Anonymous said…
fillip,
the only contradiction is in your being a brainless hubristic ameronazi and your denying it!!!
Anonymous said…
"Janice said...
Fillip


You Zionlouse how dare you even use the words Iraqi Resistance and mayhem and carnage in the same sentence.

The Resistance like Saddam Hussein(Like the Sun cos he shone on Everyone except Zionlice and their Lackeys)has bravery and integrity.

Something a Lackey of the Zionswine would never comprehend."

Ok, I see where you are coming from. You are praising the mass murderer Saddam Hussein.
Anonymous said…
I'm a Zionist AND a Nazi!

Wow. What a nest of violence mongers. Worse than a nest of neocons.
Anonymous said…
I cant begin to know what suffering those people are going through, however any doctor will tell you that any disease has to get worse before its get better, and arab women are made of the strongest of clays. May G-d bless them
Yes I am praising Saddam(was a Hero,is a Martyr)Hussein.

Mass Murderer is what Zionshits call him.
Anonymous said…
Janice said" Saddam didn`t kill and torture"
did by any chance Hitler jump out of the Grave and do it?
Anonymous said…
maximilliam,
as to Hitlers: there millions of them in the US and Israhell. Go and count them!
Anonymous said…
typo:
there millions= there are millions
Anonymous said…
Anon ; very weak reply
Anonymous said…
anonymous
you got it all wrong it is ISRAOIL,hell is next door in GAZA
Anonymous said…
maximilliam,
no, it's Israhell, where you can find the Jewish thieves, robbers, vandalizers, brutalizers, torcherers, murderers, massmurderers, genociders - the zionazi psycopathic barbarians!
Anonymous said…
Fillip Hypocrite,

1) It was the Iranians who attacked us, not the other way around.

2) It was still the Iranians who gassed the Kurds, not us.

3) Kuwait was a rightful and welcome annexation, whereas Iraq is an illegal and uncalled-for colonization.

4) The Shiite rioters were US-backed traitors to the Iraqi People.

5) President Saddam Hussein never laid a finger on any decent human being and loyal citizen in his life.

6) It is the US/UK-legalized, Zionist/Iranian/Saudi financed and trained sectarian death squads which are creating all the "mayhem" and the "carnage", not the glorious Iraqi national Resistance, which targets exclusively occupiers and direct collaborators.

7) Every "soldier" to his/her "post": Layla and other patriotic bloggers in the Media, the armed resistance fighters "out in the streets".

8) No sane, red-blooded Iraqi "expects" anything from that bunch of callous, egoistic and frivolous cloud-cuckoo-landers whom you call "average Americans".

9) Collective "omertà" cries out for collective blame.

10) We are nevertheless most impressed and ever so grateful to Your "Americanship" for honoring our "humble" Iraqi board with Your "magnanimous" words.

One foot behind, curtsy.

Yours,
Hala
Anonymous said…
anonymous
it appears that you missed the point
Anonymous said…
I gather YOU were there?
Anonymous said…
when the Kurd were gassed
NOT by Saddam

No matter what Fuckwit Fillip thinks(if the word thinks can be applied)
Anonymous said…
Anonymous the missed point,
I'm quite certain that maximilliam would tell you I didn't miss the point. From your words I gather you too belong in that category, right?
Anonymous said…
apperently you never been to Gaza-Hell.
Anonymous said…
fillip said...
Actually, I think the Iraqi Resistance is creating a lot of mayhem and carnage. I now see where you and I presume Layla and the rest of you are coming from. You are, it seems, advocates and admirers of evil, mayhem and violence

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fillip...i can just abt stomach most things....the slanders n the lies, the hypocrisy etc..........but WHAT I CANNOT TOLERATE IS A BAD WORD SPOKEN ABOUT THE GLORIOUS IRAQI RESISTANCE.......stop being such a twat n show a bit of respect
Anonymous said…
Anonymous said...
anonymous
it appears that you missed the point

Wednesday, 25 July, 2007


Anonymous said...
I gather YOU were there?


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WHAT EXACTLY R U CHUMPS CHUNTERING ON ABT???
Anonymous said…
Gaza is THE FIRST PART of Palestine that has been liberated. More will follow! FREE PALESTINE!!!
Anonymous said…
7) Every "soldier" to his/her "post": Layla and other patriotic bloggers in the Media, the armed resistance fighters "out in the streets".

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wot abt hala and other patriotic iraqis out in the comments section??
Anonymous said…
Jr,

the issue is that some People seem to think Saddam had nothing to do with the gassing of the Kurds on March 19,1988 in Halabj`a.
Anonymous said…
FREE Palastine & Iraq
Anonymous said…
I believe that Palestine is an occupied land from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan River, and this is the right of the entire Palestinian people, this land.(3)
Anonymous said…
maximilliam,
how much are you paid for spreading zionazi propaganda??
Saddam DIDN'T gas the Kurds.


Anyone who thinks so is Zionshit Muppet.

Like Fillip for example
Anonymous said…
Anonyous the voice for free Palestine from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan River, I concur 100% with you!!!
Anonymous said…
you people must be lucid ,use your brain
Anonymous said…
maximilliam,
I repeat: how much are you paid for spreading zionazi propaganda?
Anon

Maximilliam probably does it for free

A Jew and money are never parted.
Anonymous said…
Janice,
I've got a feeling that maximilliam belongs to a group of zionazis who are paid for clogging up sites with their zionazi propaganda. It's not the first time that I see this name!
Anon

I have seen (unfortunately)lots of Zionazis on the Internet one is prob Maximilliam (tho I have not seen that name b4)

I like Haloscan cos I can annihilate(ban) the swine if I like :)

More than once for Zionlice with multiple IP's if I have 2
Anonymous said…
This is my Homeland no one can kick me out. ..(3)
Anonymous said…
Janice,
I had a glance at your blog and found out that you're very deeply "loved" by the zionazi barbarians.
Anonymous said…
Anonymous(3),
I think you should put your thoughts in words in a more precise way ...
Anon

Yeah I think its the same Jew he keeps coming back

I keep sending him to the showers
Anonymous said…
The Palestinian Rifle is ready and we will aim it if they try and prevent us from praying in Jerusalem. ..(3)
Anonymous said…
re:Janice i,ll pour the coals to you! (3)
Anon

Thanx :)

I think some delouser should do the trick tho.

Holocaust? Holohoax more like
Anonymous said…
Anonymous(3),
it (=the PR) should be used more often, otherwise it'll get rusty ...
Palestine won't be freed by talking or praying ...
Anonymous said…
janice: Your welcome no problem anytime. (3)
Janice

:)

N e way I'm off to bed (eyes keep closing)
Sorry I meant

Anon not Janice

:)

Nite
Anonymous said…
Anon: I concur. Whoever thinks of stoping the uprising before it reaches it's goals I will give him ten in the chest. (3)
Anonymous said…
Well Janice you apostate bitch that wasn't scripture that was the Nicene creed. As for my soul you're probably right, but I figure every proto-Nazi POS I kill gets me one step closer to god.
Anonymous said…
Hay Filip listen up and listen good, these people are former Sunni elite, these people love Saddam they got some wires in the brain crossed over, they deny his holocaust and approve of his two unprovoked wars of aggression.
Anonymous said…
hala said...
Fillip Hypocrite,

>I believe that the primary thrust of Fillip's post was to point out the hypocrisy of those who were belittling others who have shown concern but have not taken up a rifle. I agree that his secondary thrust was too reliant on a blind acceptance of propaganda, but your post is the only one here that I see even attempting to honestly disabuse that propaganda, and by the formate used it is of necessity to abbreviated to be useful. Perhaps you could link to some useful information on these subjects.


1) It was the Iranians who attacked us, not the other way around.


>As I understand it; Iran provoked and the USA instigated (Iran was the US's big "enemy of the day" at that time) but that it was Iraq that dropped the first bombs.

2) It was still the Iranians who gassed the Kurds, not us.

>It was in the middle of a battle in which both sides used chemical weapons, taking place in a town that had changed hands many times. At the time, when Iran was the big enemy of the US, the US CIA said that Iran did it. When the US wanted to attack Iraq, the story changed to Iraq did it. Nonetheless, war is a terrible thing and I can't see those who use cluster bombs and napalm making a big propaganda fuss about poison gas. And, the Kurds did side with the enemy nation during a brutal war.

3) Kuwait was a rightful and welcome annexation, whereas Iraq is an illegal and uncalled-for colonization.

>Further Iraqi perspective on the Kuwait incident would be most welcome here.

4) The Shiite rioters were US-backed traitors to the Iraqi People.

>I agree with this; but, with the caveat that you have a Fundamentalist problem over there that has nothing to do with the USA.

5) President Saddam Hussein never laid a finger on any decent human being and loyal citizen in his life.

>Saddam Hussein also failed to bring his psycho kid under control. Inexcusable.

6) It is the US/UK-legalized, Zionist/Iranian/Saudi financed and trained sectarian death squads which are creating all the "mayhem" and the "carnage", not the glorious Iraqi national Resistance, which targets exclusively occupiers and direct collaborators.

>I agree.

7) Every "soldier" to his/her "post": Layla and other patriotic bloggers in the Media, the armed resistance fighters "out in the streets".

>Which was Philip's point, regardless that he relied to heavily on accepting unsupported propaganda. What is expected of the average anti invasion/occupation American? Do you really think they can or should try to go to the other side of the planet where they do not speak the language or understand the culture and are not welcome anyway and have nothing of value to contribute to the militant resistance? Call on your fellow Arabs for that. We can not help with these things but opposition to the occupation of Iraq is not hazard free over here for those who take it seriously. How far would Iraqi libertarians go for us if the situation were reversed?

8) No sane, red-blooded Iraqi "expects" anything from that bunch of callous, egoistic and frivolous cloud-cuckoo-landers whom you call "average Americans".

>The "average American" is a fat, dimwitted sheep. But, if there weren't a lot of dimwitted sheep in Iraq, the whole nation would have united long ago in resistance to the occupation.

9) Collective "omertà" cries out for collective blame.

>Collective blame is no more justifiable than collective punishment.

10) We are nevertheless most impressed and ever so grateful to Your "Americanship" for honoring our "humble" Iraqi board with Your "magnanimous" words.

One foot behind, curtsy.

>Give it a break. Philip was reachable and the hysterical, defensive reactions of this board blew it. I replied to your post because it was the best and most honest effort.
Anonymous said…
Well considering that the vast majorit of the Iraqi population has stepped up and come out in support of their government by risking life and limb from your beloved "resistance," I would say that your "resistance" is nothing more than criminals trying to re-implement the tyranny found in Iraq prior to their liberation from under the jackboots of the Baathist scum. Got to love a resistance that targets almost exclusively the civilian population that they are supposedly resisting for.
Anonymous said…
Cutter said:

"1) It was the Iranians who attacked us, not the other way around."

You really are a fucking idiot, keep the revisionist history pumping there pal, it was not the Iranians who started the war it was the tyrant Saddam Hussein.
Anonymous said…
Cutter said:

">Further Iraqi perspective on the Kuwait incident would be most welcome here."


What other perspective is needed, it was a war of aggression to capture another nations natural resources instigated by a tyrant of biblical proportions whose invading army threw babies out of incubators.
Anonymous said…
Hay Tikriti fucking scum bags and deniars of the Kurdish Genocide, al-Anfal, end of fucking story. Oh and take that zionazi rebuttle and shove it up your heretical asses!
Anonymous said…
Trajan Octavian Titus said...
Cutter said:

">Further Iraqi perspective on the Kuwait incident would be most welcome here."


What other perspective is needed, it was a war of aggression to capture another nations natural resources instigated by a tyrant of biblical proportions whose invading army threw babies out of incubators.

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>You didn't need to post any further than that "threw babies out of incubators" bullshit to identify yourself as an idiot.
Anonymous said…
janice
either you are to young to know the truth,or just plain stupid.
Anonymous said…
Trajan Octavian Titus said...
Al-Anfal Campaign

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>Now, for balance, perhaps you could bring us something from the KKK perspective about the horrors committed in the US South during the US Civil war and explain to us how that would justify a current time brutal and murderous invasion of the USA by China.
Anonymous said…
I would just like to clarify that I was actually part of the Iraqi Opposition to Saddam Hussein.

There were many of us, who did oppose the war and invasion.

There were also others who actually did encourage the process of going to war, not because they were interested in freedom and democracy but because they smelled an oppurtunity and thought they would be given power by the US and UK.

Those same people, many of whom appeared in the media saying Saddam had weapons of mass destruction (or what we now call the weapons of mass distraction)are now back inside the UK and USA still encouraging troops to remain.

Speaking to one recently, who is also part of the new government said that the new "Iraq is hell" and I so welcomed him to "democracy".

How ironic that he also went to a meeting today, claiming to a bunch of Brits that the situation is improving and the reason he has now decided not to return to Iraq is because his family are all in the West and he wants to settle down.
Anonymous said…
Anonymous et al

anyone with a sane mind knows that the invasion of iraq is a crime,Bush & co are worthless and need to be impeached,stop talking your Zionist Bullshit and use your brain
Anonymous said…
good post lawrence of arabia
Anonymous said…
Lawrance Cutter,
I think your comments to Hala's arguments are useless, some even idiotic (4&7&8). I say just this:
if you have read ALL fillip's comments and still claim that "fillip was reachable and the hysterical, defensive reactions of this board blew it", then I must say to you that you're nuts. fillip is as much "reachable" as TOT and/or his ilk. As to the idiotic "Collective blame is no more justifiable than collective punishment" (people equating blame with punishment should see a psychiatrist!): You seem to like "individual blame", exemplified by the West and the so-called "moderate, democratic Iraqis" always laying ALL the blame for EVERY alleged crime on Saddam - now of course AlQa`ida - (the so-called "we hold Saddam personally accountable for ..." mantra) - Layla wrote beautifully about this in one of her blogs.
Anonymous said…
Anonymous said...
Lawrance Cutter,
I think your comments to Hala's arguments are useless, some even idiotic (4&7&8). I say just this:
if you have read ALL fillip's comments and still claim that "fillip was reachable and the hysterical, defensive reactions of this board blew it", then I must say to you that you're nuts. fillip is as much "reachable" as TOT and/or his ilk. As to the idiotic "Collective blame is no more justifiable than collective punishment" (people equating blame with punishment should see a psychiatrist!): You seem to like "individual blame", exemplified by the West and the so-called "moderate, democratic Iraqis" always laying ALL the blame for EVERY alleged crime on Saddam - now of course AlQa`ida - (the so-called "we hold Saddam personally accountable for ..." mantra) - Layla wrote beautifully about this in one of her blogs.

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I have read only one of Fillip's posts and that one was nothing like the TOTs. It's interesting that you choose 4&7&8 to take umbrage with, as that selection on your part seems to prove my point about useless, counterproductive and indefensible defensiveness. Perhaps it is you who should seek psychological help if you're unable to see the connection between blame and punishment. From there you degenerated into a babbling so nonsensical as to be unrecognizable as a reply to anything I have ever said. Perhaps you would like to try again. You might start by being a bit more specific in your complaints about 4&7&8. If not, your noise is useless.
Anonymous said…
Lawrance Cutter,
4)"you have a Fundamentalist problem over there that has nothing to do with the USA" - the usual zionazi mantra (now become also an ameronazi mantra), you're just parroting Olmert and Bush!
8)The vast majority of Iraqis support the resistance. If you don't believe it, go and count the plastic bags arriving from Iraq.
7)the most significant part as it presents your "point about useless, counterproductive and indefensible defensiveness". Only zionazis and ameronazis dream of total submission to their barbarity. And you're chiming in with them.
As to "the connection between blame and punishment" go and see a psychiatrist! It's urgent!!!
Anonymous said…
Anonymous said:

"Lawrance Cutter,
I think your comments to Hala's arguments are usuless, some even idiotic"

I heartily concur !

"Lawrance of Arabia", as JR astutely (?) nicknamed him, must be a 21st Century "Orientalist", one of those "cool" American leftist wankers intellectually curious about the "Planet Iraq" (oh dearie us ..) but deep down as "bourgeois", myopic and prejudiced as the Fascists they claim to be opposing.

As Layla likes so much to say: FUCK THEM ALL !
Trajan

I know its the Nicene Creed twat.I meant scripture as in religious writing.

My point IS YOU have no business quoting it.

Take a shower. (Cos u suck)
Anonymous said…
"Lawrance of Arabia", as JR astutely (?) nicknamed him

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i thought it was a good post by lawrance! so i guess not very astute on my part then...
Anonymous said…
Anonymous said...
Lawrance Cutter,
4)"you have a Fundamentalist problem over there that has nothing to do with the USA" - the usual zionazi mantra (now become also an ameronazi mantra), you're just parroting Olmert and Bush!
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>I don't see your bigotry as fundamentally different than that of Olmert or Bush. I have never challenged your dislike of the Zionist but if you're so obsessed with them that you don't see that they are only a part of the Neocon Empire movement or it causes you to fail to see the influence of the Oil Corporations, than you ain't doing nothing but backing up.


8)The vast majority of Iraqis support the resistance. If you don't believe it, go and count the plastic bags arriving from Iraq.
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>I said the sheep were not united, and they are not. You've got thousands of Iraqis joining AL Qaeda and the Mehdi Army and busy killing Iraqis rather than joining together to remove the occupiers. Those are sheep the same as the US sheep. A Theocracy is the worst kind of dictatorship and tolerates nothing but sheep. If it weren't for the Baathist secular resistance and their allies, I wouldn't have reason to give a damn about you sectarian whiners.


7)the most significant part as it presents your "point about useless, counterproductive and indefensible defensiveness". Only zionazis and ameronazis dream of total submission to their barbarity. And you're chiming in with them.
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>Total nonsense. Number 7 had nothing to do with any of that. None of that was even hinted at in #7. Try again.


As to "the connection between blame and punishment" go and see a psychiatrist! It's urgent!!!
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>More total nonsense. You're just having a tantrum at someone who's not bowing to your bigotry and shallowness. I gave the Iraqi Resistance praise for their valor. In my world, that is a million times more valuable than this (whatever you want to label it) BS you're trying to run by me (it's damned sure not valor).
Anonymous said…
hala said...
Anonymous said:

"Lawrance Cutter,
I think your comments to Hala's arguments are usuless, some even idiotic"

I heartily concur !

"Lawrance of Arabia", as JR astutely (?) nicknamed him, must be a 21st Century "Orientalist",
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>I am a 20th century Sandanistan and 21st century Bolivarian.

one of those "cool" American leftist wankers intellectually curious about the "Planet Iraq"
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>Iraq is only a small part of my planet and I am not real pleased with your representation of it. I thought I had found some Baathist here, but I have never heard such from any Baathist as I'm hearing from you two Iraqi wankers.


(oh dearie us ..) but deep down as "bourgeois", myopic and prejudiced as the Fascists they claim to be opposing.

As Layla likes so much to say: FUCK THEM ALL !
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>I've read many of Layla's posts. If she thought and sounded like you two, I would never have returned for the second dose.
Anonymous said…
Lawrance Cutter,

We loyal Iraqis are ALL with the Ba'athist Resistance - UNCONDITIONALLY.

It is YOU the one who seems to suffer from some sort of "intellectual confusion".

Take Anonymous' advice and go see a psychiatrist.
Anonymous said…
Lawrance Cutter,
you seem not to understand the meaning of "ameronazi" and "zionazi". And you're using TOT's magical thinking: give me the proof that I'm doing nothing but "backing up the influence of the Oil Corporations. Where's the quote, liar?
As to 8): Your argumentation makes you to TOT II. Where on earth is your clue that makes you calling me a "sectarian whiner", liar??
As to "the connection between blame and punishment" go and see a psychiatrist! It's more than urgent!!!
Anonymous said…
hala said...
Lawrance Cutter,

We loyal Iraqis are ALL with the Ba'athist Resistance - UNCONDITIONALLY.

It is YOU the one who seems to suffer from some sort of "intellectual confusion".

Take Anonymous' advice and go see a psychiatrist.

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What you remind me of more than anything else is the Bushites that I argue with on the American boards. You may be on opposite sides of the divide but your basic thought possesses and debate style are identical.
Anonymous said…
Anonymous said...
Lawrance Cutter,
you seem not to understand the meaning of "ameronazi" and "zionazi".

>I'm sure that I do understand those terms. Your problem is your inability to demonstrate my proclivity to such isms.

And you're using TOT's magical thinking: give me the proof that I'm doing nothing but "backing up the influence of the Oil Corporations.

>Here's a good example of your problem: I never said that you were doing nothing but "backing up the influence of the Oil Corporations. Why are you so fearful of making the stretch to reply to anything that I actually say?


Where's the quote, liar?

>Liar liar liar. Geesh, child. There's no quote because I didn't say that you said that.

As to 8): Your argumentation makes you to TOT II. Where on earth is your clue that makes you calling me a "sectarian whiner", liar??

>Because you're whining and relying on sectarianism and you still haven't attempted to reply to anything that I actually said.

As to "the connection between blame and punishment" go and see a psychiatrist! It's more than urgent!!!

>You're saying that you believe in punishing the blameless. Run that thought by your psychiatrist.

>I'm not going to take up any more of Layla's board space with this childish bickering with you. If you have something you would like me to understand about any issue or if you want to debate me on any ISSUE, go for it; otherwise, you are just childish noise to be ignored.
Anonymous said…
Lawrance Cutter,
the quote=the quote to back up your claim - beautifully nested and implied in an if-then sentence - that I'm backing the influence of the oil corporation. Go back and read your own words!
As to 8): Your nonsense needs no reply, it's evident to every normal-brained reader. But where's the quote? And now come forward with another quote, ie to prove your claim that I'm "whining and relying on sectarianism"! And another quote is needed: to prove your claim that I'm "saying that" I "believe in punishing the blameless"! Come on, TOT II! Prove that you're not just a hubristic childish bickerer making childish noise to be ignored!
Anonymous said…
Anonymous,

Your latest post is nothing more than more misrepresentations (Bushite Bullshit) and childish foot stomping. I suggest that it is you who need to go back and reread.

Perhaps English is not your first language and my American slang is confusing you. If so, let it be known and we should both apply more effort at communication. If that's not it - whatever.
Anonymous said…
Lawrance Cutter,
as to English (as the communication channel): My students' English is - true - not as good as yours, but they could teach you (the use of) rational thinking, that thing you have a dire need for ...
Anonymous said…
Anonymous said...
Lawrance Cutter,
as to English (as the communication channel): My students' English is - true - not as good as yours, but they could teach you (the use of) rational thinking, that thing you have a dire need for ...
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That comment was a good example of communication difficulties. In standard English, you just told me that you have students translating for you on this board and that you believe that the thoughts of your student translators are more rational than my thoughts. But, as it is, I don't know if that's what you meant to say or not. With simular intent, when you're all riled about something that you think I've said and I reply that that's not at all what I said, the most useful and rational reply might be to say something like, "Then please try again with special effort and I will give the same honest effort to understand your thoughts and intentions this time."
Anonymous said…
>Iraq is only a small part of my planet and I am not real pleased with your representation of it. I thought I had found some Baathist here, but I have never heard such from any Baathist as I'm hearing from you two Iraqi wankers.

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fuck off lawrence u stupid cunt
Anonymous said…
hi hala
Anonymous said…
jr said...
>Iraq is only a small part of my planet and I am not real pleased with your representation of it. I thought I had found some Baathist here, but I have never heard such from any Baathist as I'm hearing from you two Iraqi wankers.

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fuck off lawrence u stupid cunt
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Thought in itself is already a force of history and an inestimable revolutionary force. The act of placing the Arab cause in the framework of a system of comprehensive thought is the first contribution to the consolidation of the Arab revolutionary movement, in providing it with solid bases.
- Comrade Michel Aflaq
Anonymous said…
ill take that as an apology.....apology accepted
Anonymous said…
Lawrance Cutter said...
jr said...
>Iraq is only a small part of my planet and I am not real pleased with your representation of it. I thought I had found some Baathist here, but I have never heard such from any Baathist as I'm hearing from you two Iraqi wankers.

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fuck off lawrence u stupid cunt
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Thought in itself is already a force of history and an inestimable revolutionary force. The act of placing the Arab cause in the framework of a system of comprehensive thought is the first contribution to the consolidation of the Arab revolutionary movement, in providing it with solid bases.
- Comrade Michel Aflaq

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26/7/07 8:56 PM
jr said...
ill take that as an apology.....

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Why? If you look at the context from which you clipped my first comment, it clearly wasn't directed at you. And, if you look at the context from which you clipped the first comment, there is no call for apology to the two that I did address with the comment, nor any forthcoming.

If you look at the original comment and combine it with my follow-up quote, there may be some value gained as to how better to make progress than the ignorance that my first comment was directed towards.
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