Some thoughts on Forgiveness...
I receive several comments and mails urging me to forgive.
I have nothing against forgiveness. Forgiveness frees.
However I do have a problem and am stuck...so maybe you can help me.
How on earth does one forgive when the slight, abuse, humiliation, cruelty, destruction, annihilation is ongoing....Day in, day out. How?
Forgiveness necessitates truce, a time out, a moment of peace...
Forgiveness necessitates distance from the predator, from the abuser.It also needs a time of healing. It needs amends, corrections, rectifications, for all the damage.
How on earth can you expect anyone to forgive when none of the above conditions are there?
And moreover, why do you expect me, us, Iraqis to forgive you when there is no intention or change of course on your part?
What are we supposed to do with our dead ones, our injured ones, our memories, our lost hopes, our vanished dreams? What are we supposed to do with our exile, our losses, our uprootedness?
And even if we suddenly metamorphose into sainthood, what do we do with your presence in our faces?
Christ was crucified once. He was able to forgive. It was a one time affair.
But you are crucifying us daily. Daily, since your Desert Storm. And ever since you have done nothing but blow more sand in our eyes.
So how do I forgive? You tell me...
And assuming I have managed to do so.
Will the Tigris and the Euphrates forgive you ?
Will the dead fish and the floating corpses forgive you?
Imagine I forgave you.
Will the deliberately burned down palm trees forgive you?
Will the ruins forgive you?
Will the polluted earth with your toxic waste forgive you?
Will the walls of this city and its crumbled roofs forgive you?
Will Iraq ever forgive you?
I am the wrong person to ask forgiveness from. Ask Her.
But before you ask Her, stop doing what you are doing.
You cannot continue in your ways and ask for forgiveness. It is simply not possible.
In the meantime, She will continue driving you out by the same and equal sheer force that you have used on Her.
Read Her history and you will know.
And trust me, you will come begging for Her Mercy.
I have nothing against forgiveness. Forgiveness frees.
However I do have a problem and am stuck...so maybe you can help me.
How on earth does one forgive when the slight, abuse, humiliation, cruelty, destruction, annihilation is ongoing....Day in, day out. How?
Forgiveness necessitates truce, a time out, a moment of peace...
Forgiveness necessitates distance from the predator, from the abuser.It also needs a time of healing. It needs amends, corrections, rectifications, for all the damage.
How on earth can you expect anyone to forgive when none of the above conditions are there?
And moreover, why do you expect me, us, Iraqis to forgive you when there is no intention or change of course on your part?
What are we supposed to do with our dead ones, our injured ones, our memories, our lost hopes, our vanished dreams? What are we supposed to do with our exile, our losses, our uprootedness?
And even if we suddenly metamorphose into sainthood, what do we do with your presence in our faces?
Christ was crucified once. He was able to forgive. It was a one time affair.
But you are crucifying us daily. Daily, since your Desert Storm. And ever since you have done nothing but blow more sand in our eyes.
So how do I forgive? You tell me...
And assuming I have managed to do so.
Will the Tigris and the Euphrates forgive you ?
Will the dead fish and the floating corpses forgive you?
Imagine I forgave you.
Will the deliberately burned down palm trees forgive you?
Will the ruins forgive you?
Will the polluted earth with your toxic waste forgive you?
Will the walls of this city and its crumbled roofs forgive you?
Will Iraq ever forgive you?
I am the wrong person to ask forgiveness from. Ask Her.
But before you ask Her, stop doing what you are doing.
You cannot continue in your ways and ask for forgiveness. It is simply not possible.
In the meantime, She will continue driving you out by the same and equal sheer force that you have used on Her.
Read Her history and you will know.
And trust me, you will come begging for Her Mercy.
Painting: Iraqi female artist, Nadia Mohammed Yass.
Comments
Tell us, what crimes did the Kurds commit to deserve being gassed? Were the Kuwaitis that were raped and murdered "CRIMINALS" and "SPIES"?
Saddam made the critical error of threatening U.S. national interests. He may have been a swell guy, able to make the trains run on time and stylishly pop off rounds in the air for the TV cameras... But he is now where those that cross the U.S. often end up: Moldering in a grave.
"We have NEVER been killing each other UNTIL your uniformed locusts stormed in and turned our orderly, peaceful and prosperous world upside down."
So you say. There are ditches full of corpses that belie your claims, but it's all amerinazi and zionazi propaganda, right? Remember, we INHERITED Abu Ghraib.
Oh, Well... I suggest that next time around you don't invade other countries, lose wars then fail to live up to the cease-fire agreements, defy the U.S. and U.N., and generally piss us off. Not a good idea... Just ask Saddam, if he could talk with that rope around his neck and his head at a jaunty angle.
"where and when did I 'admit' I 'can't'?"
Look up "tacit" in an English dictionary.
"'griz' u retarded son of a bitch how many times......FUCK OFF"
"Ghalil", you abominable product of excessive inbreeding and revolting hygiene how many times......MAKE ME
aka ameronazi and zionazi ultraprimitive barbarian, what a boring nazi psycopath, wudiaowubi de yinyangren ...
Your comments are the same lame epithets over and over and over again, and you call ME boring?
"wudiaowubi de yinyangren"
Hab SoSII' Quch!
ameronazi and zionazi ultraprimitive barbarian.
Can't you read? Ok:
AMERONAZI AND ZIONAZI ULTRAPRIMITIVE BARBARIAN.
You can write it down, or even better: write it on your forehead, so you can more easily memorize it.
Though I hardly believe that you'll ever be capable of understanding it. Of course, if you think that a translation into your beloved Klingonian would be of help, just help yourself, nazi psycopath, wudiaowubi de yinyangren ...
Can you?
Once again, your comments are the same lame epithets over and over and over again, and you call ME boring?
Once again, your comments are the same lame epithets over and over and over again, and you call ME boring?
...and a third time, your comments are the same lame epithets over and over and over again, and you call ME boring?
You seem to assume that your witless Nazi mantra or insults in a language I don't speak are going to affect me. Sorry to break it to you, but I only care about the opinions of people I respect... and you have shown no sign of intellect or logic that would warrant my respect.
You behave like a 3 year old: You want what you want and feel justified in throwing a tantrum when you don't get your way. In another words, you're acting like a stereotypical Muslim.
Grow up.
aka ameronazi and zionazi ultraprimitive barbarian, you're just doing what your sick zionazi brain is capable of: bullshitting and crapping, crapping and bullshitting, bullshitting and crapping, ...., nazi psycopath, wudiaowubi de yinyangren ...
"Tell us, what crimes did the Kurds commit to deserve being gassed?"
Conjure up the damned soul of the SCHIZOPHRENIC "anti-imperialist" by day and US Congress-financed, Israhell-armed WESTERN PUPPET by night AYATOLLAH KHOMEINI in your next Skulls and Bones "séance" and ask HIM.
He surely is in a better position to KNOW the answer to your question than ANY Iraqi EVER will ..
"Were the Kuwaitis that were raped and murdered CRIMINALS and SPIES?"
There is no such thing as "Kuwaitis".
The inhabitants of the 19th PROVINCE OF THE REPUBLIC OF IRAQ are AS MUCH Iraqi AS the ones the 2 MUPPETS (as JR would call them) Mister Sykes & Monsieur Picot ARBITRARILY distinguished from them.
And the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of them APPLAUDED the LEGITIMATE annexation.
As for the alleged "rapes", "murders", "babies thrown out of incubators" and other HOLLYWOOD HORROR MOVIE PROPAGANDA, ask the FATHER of the SON OF A DOG in the White House.
"There are ditches full of corpses that belie your claims, but it's all amerinazi and zionazi propaganda, right?"
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
See ? You can be CLEVER when you choose !
And last but not least ..
"But he is now where those that cross the US often end up: Moldering in a grave."
Come nearer that I have to whisper a "secret" in your ear:
By throwing his BODY to the pro-Iranian "Pharisaic" scum, you modern age "Pilates" made the HUGEST MISTAKE in your history.
For his SPIRIT, the spirit of PAN-ARABISM, miraculously ROSE AGAIN stronger than ever.
Now, EACH OF US "is" Saddam Hussein ..
Farewell till the Day of Judgement.
The heretical followers of the apostate Qutb and the death cult of Wahhab like the Baathists before them, will soon enough find themselves in the dustbin of history along with all those who thought they could go against the republic. I really am sorry (well not really) that you and the Tikriti Sunni elitist scum can no longer live in the lap of luxury while the masses starve under the jack boot of Baathist thugs, but the vast majority of Iraqi's do not want to go back to that tyranny as was proven by the fact that as a % of the population more Iraqi's voted for Democracy than did Americans in the 2000 presidential elections, and we weren't facing the loss of life and limb at the hands of Islamic Fascists and Baathist holdovers.
Nex ut tyrannus y sic semper tyrannus, licentia vel nex!
Death to tyrants and thus always for tyrants, liberty or death!
"It is in vain, sir, to extentuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace--but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" -- Patrick Henry to the Virginia House of Burgesses 3/23/1775
TO ARMS TO ARMS!!!
FACIEMATERGOABELEPHANTOFUTUTIHABES,
FUTUETEIPSUMETCAPRAMTUAM!
"We dare not forget today that we are the heirs of that first revolution. Let the word go forth from this time and place, to friend and foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans—born in this century, tempered by war, disciplined by a hard and bitter peace, proud of our ancient heritage—and unwilling to witness or permit the slow undoing of those human rights to which this Nation has always been committed, and to which we are committed today at home and around the world.
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
This much we pledge—and more.
To those new States whom we welcome to the ranks of the free, we pledge our word that one form of colonial control shall not have passed away merely to be replaced by a far more iron tyranny. We shall not always expect to find them supporting our view. But we shall always hope to find them strongly supporting their own freedom—and to remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside." -- JFK inaguaral address 1/20/1961
FACIEMSUISGLOBOSLAMBENTISHABES,
FUTUETEIPSUMETMATREMTUAM!
“Blessed is the Lord my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight: My goodness, and my fortress, my high tower, and my deliverer, my shield and he in whom I trust who subdueth mine enemies under me." -- Psalm 144:1-2
FACIEMSUISSEMENBIBENTISHABES,
FUTUETEIPSUMETAVUMTUUM!
Si vis pacem para bellum et inter arma enim silent leges. Nex ut tyrannus et sic semper tyrannus, licentia vel nex!
Senatus Populas Quiritium Americanus
CAMELOPARDALISSTERCOREMPROCEREBROHABES,
FUTUETEIPSUMETPARENTESTUOS!
Ba'athisti atque Qutbisti Wahhabistique acerrimi inimici inter eos sunt.
Ignorantia tuae nostrarum rerum historiae incredibilis est.
Te hortor ut Zionisticae Propagandae excrementos edere desistes.
Supremum vale te dico.
Filia Mesopotamiae,
Hala
The enemy's own "language" - as usual ;-)
Ah, let me get this straight...
Iran, with the support of the U.S. and Israel, is responsible for the gassing of Kurds in Northern Iraq.
Kuwaitis and Kuwait do not exist.
The evidence that Saddam and his regime tortured and killed hundreds of thousands of this own people is fabricated like a Hollywood movie.
The execution of Saddam has revived Pan-Arabism, making it viable again despite Arab failures to win the Six Day War, unite Arab countries, or otherwise produce tangible results to this date.
Fine, for the purposes of discussion, I'll grant that you're totally right about all the above.
Here's a secret, whispered in your ear: The vast majority of U.S. citizens DO NOT CARE about any of that.
We don't care what the difference is between Shia and Sunni, Ba'athist socialist and Islamic fundamentalist. To us, you're just a bunch of smelly foreigners that treat your women badly and would still be herding goats in the desert if it weren't for the fact you're sitting on trillions of dollars worth of oil.
Where does that leave you and your glorious Pan-Arabism?
When you say that Kuwait (or Israel) do not exist, you are sounding like Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf, our good ol' Baghdad Bob.
Kuwait and Israel exist because the United States says they do. You Pan-Arabists have tried to erase both, and FAILED MISERABLY.
Here's another secret for you: If you want to choose how the map of the world is drawn, WIN SOME WARS.
You say you are all Saddam Hussein. If you choose so, then you have Saddam's choice: Flee into exile, cower in a squalid hole, or die an ignominious death.
--Griz
Khalil Gibran,
The enemy's own "language" - as usual ;-)
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;-)
aka ameronazi and zionazi ultraprimitive barbarian,
FACIEMMENTULAMELEPHANTISUGENTISHABES
FUTUETEIPSUMETAVIAMTUAM, nazi psycopath, wudiaowubi de yinyangren ...
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great opening lines....u really set the tone for the onslaguht......nice won!!!
Well considering that the Baathists have now been erased from the pages of history by the republic, and the Qutbist and Wahhabist apostates and heretics are now who we are fighting in the land between two rivers, they are next and will be soon following in the footsteps of your dear leader to the gallows along with every other followers of tyrannical ideologies led by despots who thought they could challenge the republic.
FACIEMAFRONTEFORMICAMFUTUENTISHABES,
FUTUETEIPSUMETOVESTUAS!
That would be Latin Khalil, and seeing as you insulted my fellow citizen I don't believe that you read all the way through or did and don't grasp what it is you were reading.
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if was the former....i read it then u went off on one and i just cudn't be bothered
FACIEMAFRONTEABELEPHANTOFUTUTIHABES,
FUTUETEIPSUMETSORORESTUAS!
伊拉克的國歌叫Yankee&Co GO HOME!
國際國歌叫Yankee&Co GO HOME!
讓全世界都唱Yankee&Co GO HOME!
Bush&Blair&Olmert = the coalition of the murdering
the coalition of the willing = the coalition of the evil
Make us.
FACIEMAFRONTEACABALLOFUTUTIHABES,
FUTUETEIPSUMETSOROREMTUAM!
跟笨蛋誰要談???
Make us go you heretical follower of the apostate Qutb and the death cult of Wahhab, make us.
You are not American.
Or, if you are on papers, it is not the United States of America which your allegiance goes to.
As our lawful Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz once politely but firmly told a journalist, I am sorry, but I don't speak to people of your sort.
BACK TO THE SEA, LOAN SHARKS !
See you in Al-Quds.
操你媽爸全家!
your Arabic script is not showing up.
What a brainless BUMPKIN!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!
"Brainles bumpkin," ooo that one stung. Well you're a stinky poop face. lmfao
FACIEMAFRONTEFORMICAMFUTUENTISHABES,
FUTUETEIPSUMETOVESTUAS!
Yeah, that's goooooooood!
HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!
"My allegiance is to the republic, the constitution, and to the creator who grants all men the inalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
You meant to the RE-PRIVATE, the PRO-STITUTION, and to the GOLDEN CALF who would grant the ZIONIST JEWS and their GENTILE SLAVES the "aristo-racial" LICENSES to MASS-MURDER, SUBJUGATION, and the pursuit of PROFIT ?
"sorry to disappoint, but Adolfamadinejad is next"
Ahem .. what planet are you living on ?
We Iraqis LOATHE that ugly, filthy Persian RAT.
By all means, take him to HELL with you !!
Now "vale" for good.
Your Islamized Nazi rhetoric aside, I thought you were saying that I like Iran because you said something about "al quds," which I took as a reference to the al-Quds division of the revolutionary guard.
Oh and you have it backwards, Israel is our client state.
You said...Why do insurgents hide behind women's skirts? Because in a stand up fight, toe to toe, we slaughter them.
Got news for YOU, buddy, and I am speaking from personal experience and the many experiences of my many family members who have been to war against an enemy that was barefoot (Vietnam), my sons, son in law, has been to Iraq as a front line grunt...and they will tell you...
IF YOU TOOK AWAY THE BODY ARMOR, THE HIGH TECH WEAPONRY, THE AIR SUPPORT AND TRULY FOUGHT THIS 'ENEMY' ON AN EQUAL BASIS (everyone with the same equipment)
They would run your asses back from whence they came in VERY SHORT ORDER.
That's a fact.
Again, we Iraqis are SECULAR, so keep YOUR "Islamized Nazi" big bad wolves rhetoric to yourself.
"Al-Quds" is the ARABIC name of the ARAB city of Jerusalem.
The bifurcate-tongued Persian SNAKES are just BLUFFING about liberating it while MATING with the Zionists behind the scenes.
As for Israhell, sorry to break it to you "proud" (i.e. jingo) AmeriKKKan, but it is YOU who are THEIR puppets and cannon fodder and NOT the other way around ..
Go to sleep now, there's a good boy.
Seriously you call me a Nazi while at the same time ruggeretating Islamized Nazi propaganda. You really need to get some new material, the protocals of the elders of zion is a fake, there is no giant Jewish conspiracy, you are delusional. If anything Israel is our client state, we live in a pluralist state so ofcourse everyone has an ear to the government but the Israel lobby doesn't have the kind of influence as you're imagining, IE on a scale of 1-10 of who has more influence the Tobacco industry would rate as a 7 and Israel would be like a 2 or a 1, and the AARP would be like a 9.
You might just be another REMF who spent his time in Nam smoking dope and fathering illegitimate children on underage Viet whores, but I think you're really just an out and out lying sack of excrement.
Judging by the form and content of your post, I suspect you're Hala.
No Marine I know, and I've known more than a few, would have left "Marine" uncapitalized or said that "YOUR" asses would be "run back"
Dripping wet out of the shower, our soldiers are superior to anything the Arab world can turn out. We have (which you'd know if you were what you said you were) 100+ plus years of continuous experience in small unit warfare, handed down from the career non-coms that are the backbone of any Army... Which is not something you can buy from the Russians on the black market.
Oh, and we aren't giving up our armor, our advanced weapons and air support. Which is why we shall continue to slaughter you where ever you oppose us.
"Yankee and Co. GO HOME"
MAKE US!
"That's a fact."
You are a filthy liar. A lying insolent monkey. I curse your mustache, and your mother's mustache as well... and her's is the better looking one, you putrid lying little sand-louse!
阿富汗的國歌叫 Yankee&Co GO HOME!
伊拉克的國歌叫 Yankee&Co GO HOME!
國際國歌叫 Yankee&Co GO HOME!
讓全世界都唱 Yankee&Co GO HOME!
Bush&Blair&Olmert = the coalition of the murdering
the coalition of the willing = the coalition of the evil
Hands up who think that the one who produced this ameronazi-style barbarity - aimed at someone who just said the plainest of truths - is not a PSYCOPATH!
Is everyone you don't agree with a psycopath in your book?
ha ha ha ha, what a ZIOnazi spin and twist!!! That sort of "creative thinking" is a hallmark of the Israhelli nazilanders. You may not be Jewish by birth (you said so) but you've got a zionazi brain, the brain of a downright psycopath.
you seem to have a liking to training your zionazi style of conversation. What a bore you are, zionazi!
Just thought I let you know.
You cannot forgive those who trespasses againts you. At least not as the AmeriKKKans has done.
For the others, lets stick to Layla's question and do not slander one another or use the blogg for anything else. Have some respect oh all your civilized people. That is what you are is it not so. No I am not refering to the Bushy and associate clan. They are not human let alone civilized.